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JON - Can you tell me where it notes in the Bible that Jehovah and Michael were gods before coming to earth as Christ and Adam. I am addressing
a Jehovah Witness friend,to prove we believe Jehovah is the God of this world.
JOEL - In the New Testament Jesus said while praying to His father:
"And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." (John 17:5)
If Jesus shared the same glory that the Father had then it logical to understand that Jesus was just as much a God as His Father.
What we need to do now is show that it was Jesus that is refered to as Jehovah, the God of this world, that was worshipped in the Old Testament.
One of the attributes of Jehovah is that he is Judge. Throughout the Old Testament we are told that the LORD (Jehovah)
1 Sam 2:10 - "shall judge the ends of the earth"
Deut 32:36 - "shall judge his people"
1Chr 16:33 - "cometh to judge the earth"
Ps 9:8 - "shall judge the world in righteousness"
Ps 96:10 - "shall judge the people righteously"
Ps 96:13 - "cometh to judge the earth: he shall judge the world with righteousness, and the people with his truth"
Isa 2:4 - "shall judge among the nations"
Isa 3:13 - "standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people"
Isa 11:4 - "with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity"
Isa 33:22
Eze 18:30 - "will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways"
In the New Testament, Jesus Christ is identified as the judge:
John 5:22 -"the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son"
John 9:39 - "And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world."
The Apostles also identified Jesus Christ as the judge:
Acts 10:42 - "it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead"
Acts 17:31 - "he will judge the world in righteousness"
Rom 14:10 - "we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ"
2 Cor 5:10 - "we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ"
2 Tim 4:1 - "shall judge the quick and the dead"
Jude 1:14-15 - "The Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all"
Since the Father "judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son", the judge named Jehovah, described in the Old Testament verses,
must therefore be Jesus Christ.
The New Testament testifies that Jesus is the Savior of the world (1 John 4:14, Phil 3:20, Luke 2:11, John 4:42)
The LORD Jehovah in the Old Testament said:
"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." (Isaiah 43:11)
God (Jehovah) told us in the Old Testament refering to His own future resurrection:
"Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise." (Isaiah 26:19)
Adam would be a little more difficult to prove using the Bible. Most of what we know about Him being Michael and helping in the creation is found in
latter-day revelation and scripture, which I don't think will convince your Jehovah Witness friend.
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