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DJ - I have enjoyed reading through
your site from time to time and have had a quick look
but can't see an answer to my question; it is about
the Mount of Transfiguration before Christs'
atonement. Clearly He had to leave the apostles with
the authority to lead the church after he was gone and
I had always regarded the event at Kirtland as the
modern day equivalent of that prior event. A
closer reading of the accounts of both records raises
a question, namely, where is the third key in the
bible account? In Kirtland Temple there are plainly
three persons conferring their particular priesthood
keys while in Judea there is mention of building three
altars; one for Moses one for Elias (Elijah) and one
for thee (Christ) inferring there was
only two other persons there. My thinking is that
there WAS three but over time Elijah and the real
Elias have got mixed up and have become one
in that record. Another possibility is that as literal
descendants of Abraham they did not require the "keys
of the dispensation of the gospel
of Abraham" or that Christ stood in for the real
Elias, but this last one is unlikely because it would
be out of order for Christ to be a rep
for anyone except Heavenly Father, and I presume He
could have conferred all the keys Himself if He was
directed to.
So what do you think? Are you able to shed any light
on these most important events?
JOEL - Christ could have of course done it all himself, but
as we have learned throughout the scriptures He likes
to delegate responsibilities out to His servants the
prophets.
The record of what happened on the mount of
transfiguration I think is as you have suggested,
fragmentary or incomplete and even somewhat
contradictory, especially when one considers the JST
version of the event.
This makes it difficult to know exactly who was there
and what happened. It's also hard to know who is being
spoken of when the name "Elias" is used. Elias can be
both a name and a title that can refer to any one of
several people.
We know that Moses and Elijah the Tishbite(1 Kings
17:1) were there on the mount as translated beings,
which made it possible for them to give the keys of
the kingdom to Peter, James, and John. Elias is simply
the New Testament Greek form of the Hebrew name
Elijah.
"And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and
Elias(Elijah) talking with him." (Matthew 17:3)
Elder Boyd K. Packer explained:
"One question about Elijah needs to be clear at the
outset. The New Testament refers to Elijah by the name
Elias. For example, James 5:17, "Elias was a man
subject to like passions as we are." The reason we are
sure that this refers to Elijah is that Elias is the
Greek translation of the Hebrew name Elijah. When they
refer to an individual's name, they
could not mean anyone but the Elijah of the Old
Testament." (Holy Temple, P. 98)
However, the JST translation of Mark 9:1-4 calls John
the Baptist the Elias who was there with Moses.
"And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses, or in
other words, John the Baptist and Moses; and they were
talking with Jesus." (JST Mark 9:3)
Because of this some have speculated that John the
Baptist was the Elijah(Elias) who was there with
Moses. John the Baptist has of course been called an
Elias; the problem is that other scriptures list
Elias, John the Baptist, and Elijah as separate
individuals (D&C 27: 5-12).
So we can be fairly certain that Elijah was not John
the Baptist. The only other way to look at it is if
we conclude that John the Baptist was a third person
who appeared there along with Elijah and Moses,
although he would have been in spirit form only.
To complicate things more, there was a third less
known prophet named Elias, who appeared to Joseph
Smith and Oliver Cowdery in the Kirtland Temple.
President Joseph Fielding Smith explained that this
Elias was most likely the prophet Noah. His reasoning
goes as follows. Joseph Smith taught that the angel
Gabriel is Noah (TPJS. p.158). Luke reveals
that it was the angel Gabriel who came to Zacharias to
inform him that his wife would have a son. (Luke 1:11, 19,
19). In Doctrine and Covenants 27:6-7 we learn that it
was Elias who came to Zacharias to announce the birth
of John the Baptist. President Smith therefore
concludes that the Elias who appeared to Joseph and
Oliver is the prophet Noah.
(Answers to Gospel Questions 3: 139)
Others have speculated that this Elias who "committed
the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham" onto Joseph
and Oliver might have been the prophet Abraham
himself.
Bruce R. McConkie stated:
"We have no information, at this time, as to the
mortal life or ministry of Elias. Apparently he lived
in the days of Abraham, but whether he was Abraham, or
Melchizedek, or some other prophet, we do not know.
(Mormon Doctrine, p. 220)
As you can see there are different opinions even among
Church general authorities.
One thing to consider is that bestowing keys on Peter,
James, and John at the mount would have required
someone who still had a body. Moses and Elijah were
translated beings which physically qualified them to
perform their respective
ordinances themselves. Anyone else who appeared there
would have still been a spirit(eg Elias). So it is
possible that if there were any other keys to bestow,
it was necessary for Jesus to stand in for the
respective prophet. However, there is of course no
scriptural record of this.
When it came time for keys to be bestowed on Joseph
and Oliver Cowdery, this same third prophet(Elias)
could by that time have been a resurrected being,
which would make it physically possible for him to
perform the ordinance himself.
At the moment there is no other absolutly certain
answer to your question that I can find.
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