JOEL - I will address a few of the scriptures that I believe you are refering to:
"Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you."(John 15:16)
Jesus did ordain the apostles to go out and bring
forth fruit. The question is what does the fruit
represent and what does the word "remain" mean?
Scriptures like these are subject to various
interpretations. Does this scripture really say that
their fruit "will" remain or only that it "should"
remain. Jesus is not telling them what will
deffinately happen, He is only telling them what He
wants them to do. The things that God tells His
servants that He wants done is always subject to the
agency of man.
God told Moses that He would rescue His
people from the Egyptians. He gave them His
commandments and said He would lead them to a land
flowing with milk and honey. These were supposed to be
His chosen people. But because of their lack of faith
and unrighteous behavior, he had to take back His
commandments and delay their arival to the promised
land for forty years.
In many cases human actions and choices can alter,
postpone, or prevent the fulfillment of God's
prophecies(See Jer. 26:12-13, 17-19).
The LDS church claims that, because of man's agency,
there was an apostasy from the full truth of the
Gospel and a loss of priesthood authority and church
organization as Jesus taught it. But that doesn't mean
that some of His teachings did not endure. A few of
the fruits of the Apostles did remain on the earth.
Their scriptures and a basic knowledge of Jesus Christ
and some of the things He represented prevailed
throughout time. Unfortunately much of it was
distorted and/or lost soon after the death of the
Apostles, because of the weakness and agency of man.
This is the only way that I can understand this
scripture and still keep it in harmony with other
scriptures in the Bible about an apostasy and a
restoration that was predicted by Jesus and His
apostles. (Matt. 24:4-13, 2 Thes 2: 2-3, Acts
20:29-30, 1 Tim. 4:1-3, Acts 3:20-21)
I guess I could turn your question around and ask "If
there was really NO apostasy, how can one explain
these verses that prophesied that there would be one?"
The simple fact that there have been so many different
Christian churches is evident that there was a loss of
the pure, simple, and single Gospel of Christ.
Paul said:
"One Lord, one faith, one baptism, " (Eph. 4:5)
Another scripture:
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." (Matt. 18:20)
God's spirit can be with anyone regardles of their
religion if they are sincere in their worship of Him.
If that were not the case our missionary efforts would
be a waste of time. What we have learned by revelation
from God, however, is the importance of priesthood
authority and performance of saving ordinances that
are not found anywhere else on the earth today, except
within His authorized church.
We have prophets that
can properly interpret scripture so we can know
without question what God is saying to us.
The word of God does last forever, but throughout time
man has not always had complete access to it or a
correct understanding of it because of their own
actions and lack of belief.
See also:
http://www.mormonhaven.com/ben2.htm
http://www.mormonhaven.com/daryl.htm
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