COLETTE - I am just wondering how Mormons interpret each of these verses.
Romans 4:5
"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him
that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for
righteousness."
Titus 3:5-7
"5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done,
but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing
of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ
our Saviour;
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be
made heirs according to the hope of eternal life."
Romans 11:6
"And if by grace, then is it no more of works:
otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of
works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no
more work."
It says right here that through grace (not by works of
righteousness that we have done) we recieve eternal
life. I know that Jesus taught some things that are
different from this but that was before He died for
us. It seems that He revealed to Paul that it had
changed. I know it says that works are good and
profitable for men but it says that they
are not needed because of grace. I ain't trying to
argue. I just want to know what a Mormon thinks about
it. In the grace of the Lord Jesus,
JOEL - I think it is interesting that Jesus never once
mentioned the word grace in regards to our salvation.
But Paul was inspired by god to say what he did, so
grace must be an important principle.
I don't know how people got the idea that
our church does not believe in the importance of grace
in salvation.
Our own Book of Mormon scriptures say:
"Wherefore, my beloved brethren, reconcile yourselves
to the will of God, and not to the will of the devil
and the flesh; and remember, after ye are reconciled
unto God, that it is only in and through the grace of
God that ye are saved. (2 Nephi 10: 24-25)
and:
"For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our
children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ,
and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by
grace that we are saved, after all that we can do." (2
Nephi 25:23)
Nephi explains that apart from all we can do (works), we still need the grace of God to be saved.
So we agree with the scriptures that say that it is by
the grace of God that we are saved, but we also
believe in the following scriptures:
Philippians 2: 12 - "work out your own salvation with
fear and trembling"
Matthew 10:22 - "he that endureth to the end shall be
saved"
Matthew 7:16-21 - Not every one that saith unto me,
Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father.
James 2:14-26 - Ye see then how that by works a man is
justified, and not by faith only.(verse 24)
1 Peter 1:17 - And if ye call on the Father, who
without respect of persons judgeth according to every man’s work, pass the time of your sojourning here in
fear:
Revelation 20:12-13 - "And I saw the dead, small and
great, stand before God; and the books were opened:
and another book was opened, which is the book of
life: and the dead were judged out of those things
which were written in the books, according to their
works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and
death and hell delivered up the dead which were in
them: and they were judged every man according to
their works."
The only way we can make sense of all these scriptures
that say we are saved by grace and those that say
works are involved, is to conclude that both our works
and the grace of god are required for our salvation.
Most other Christian churches believe that salvation
is an all or nothing thing; we either go to heaven or
hell; and since noone deserves heaven we must rely on
the grace of god to save us.
However, the LDS church believes
that just about everyone who has ever lived will
receive some level of reward in heaven. This is where
our works come into play.
Jesus said:
"In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were
not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place
for you." (John 14:2)
And in Corinthians Paul taught:
"There are also celestial bodies, and bodies
terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one,
and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of
the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star
differeth from another star in glory.
So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in
corruption; it is raised in incorruption: (1
Corinthians 15:40-42)
Paul also taught that what a man sows is what he will
reap, and not to be weary in well doing, for in due
season we shall reap. (Gal. 6:7, 9)
In Matthew 6:20 Jesus said,
"But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where
neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves
do not break through nor steal:"
How else can we lay up for ourselves treasures in
heaven if not by our good works and deeds that we do
for others here on earth? Our treasures in
heaven(works) will determine the level of salvation or
mansion(glory) that we will receive.
The LDS believe as Paul said that one will reap as one
sows, that man will be saved by grace, through faith,
but God will render to every man according to his
deeds. (Rom. 2:6; Rev. 20:13). Or in other words we
shall obtain that level of Heaven equal to what we
have done and what we have become while on earth.
God wants us all to succeed and return to Him in
heaven, but He also wants us to use our agency and
prove ourselves worthy of salvation. If we do that He
will make up the difference and through his grace we
will be saved.
It's like the story where a father tells his child to
work hard and save his money so he can buy a new bike.
So the child works hard and earns and saves his money.
The time comes to buy the bike but the child learns it
costs $85.00 and he only has $10.00. The child is
worried until his father says, "That's OK, because I
love you so much, I will pay the difference for you".
By the grace of his father the child gets the bike
plus the growth and experience of working for the
money he earned.
The following Book of Mormon scripture explains this concept:
"Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and
deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall
deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with
all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace
sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be
perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are
perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of
God.
And again, if ye by the grace of God are perfect in
Christ, and deny not his power, then are ye sanctified
in Christ by the grace of God, through the shedding of
the blood of Christ, which is in the covenant of the
Father unto the remission of your csins, that ye
become holy, without spot." (Moroni 10: 32-33)
In order for God's grace to be sufficient, we must first deny
all ungodliness and love God. How do we show our love for God?
"If ye love me keep my commandments" (John 14:15)
But more important than what we do in this life, is who we have become because of what we have done and believed in.
LDS Apostle Dallin H. Oaks said:
"From such teachings we conclude that the Final
Judgment is not just an evaluation of a sum total of
good and evil acts—what we have done. It is an
acknowledgment of the final effect of our acts and
thoughts—what we have become. It is not enough for
anyone just to go through the motions. The
commandments, ordinances, and covenants of the gospel
are not a list of deposits required to be made in some
heavenly account. The gospel of Jesus Christ is a plan
that shows us how to become what our Heavenly Father
desires us to become." (Dallin H. Oaks, “The Challenge
to Become,” New Era, Aug. 2002, 12)
Finally, you must understand that we believe in
latter-day revelation and that through our prophets we
have learned more about God's plan of salvation, which
might seem strange to other Christians.